While appearing on Fox's On The Record in October 2013, the Apprentice host crowed his thoughts to anchor Greta Van Susteren on how to bypass a government freeze—condemning then-president Barack Obama for his inability to do so and reminding the country that the art of the deal when it comes to shutdowns on Capital Hill is simply that "you have to be a leader."
"You have to get everybody in a room. The president has to lead," Trump told former Fox News Host Greta Van Susteren during the on-air interview. "You have to be nice and be angry and be wild and conjole and do all sorts of things, but you have to get a deal. And, unfortunately, [Obama] has never been a dealmaker. That wasn't his expertise before he went into politics and it's obviously not his expertise now."